By Joseph Williams and Seth Wiedemann

Depending on which of us you ask, you’ll get a very different answer to the question of how much of a villain Gaston (from Beauty and the Beast) actually is.  To provide some context, the two of us have debated (for many, many, many hours on road trips, at dinners, and any other time a snide, button-pushing comment can open up an all-out debate) how villainous Gaston is for months.  It first began when we watched Beauty and the Beast on Blu-Ray. Then, when the movie was re-released in theaters in 3D, we couldn’t resist going to see it and the debate continued.

Spoiler alert: (not concerning the plot of the film… we’re going to assume you’re a good American and have seen it already) We have not come to a compromise or an agreement in any way. That is why we bring the argument to you here on The Wise Guise, to comment and vote in a poll about Gaston’s true nature.

We’ll begin our arguments to you with Seth’s opening argument.  We’ll proceed with some past arguments between us, and then we’ll let your voting and comments decide.  Odds are though, neither of us will give any ground to the other’s arguments.  We’ve happened upon one of the most underrated debates and divides of our time.

Seth’s Opening Arguments:

Picture this: The year is 1760, and you live in a poor provincial town somewhere in France. All your life you’ve been exceptional at everything you try. A master hunter and sportsman, you have the undying respect of everyone in town. Then disaster strikes. Word reaches you that a monstrous beast is terrorizing your town. Two people, including the girl you love, have been abducted. You don’t know when or where the beast will strike again, and the townspeople are terrified and panicking. A natural born leader, you take it upon yourself to lead an expedition of 50 men to protect the town.

These are the real-life issues that faced the character, Gaston.

I want to say first off that Gaston is not a good guy. He is arrogant, selfish, and tried to put Belle’s father in an insane asylum (not cool).

What I am saying is this: Gaston didn’t do anything throughout the entire movie that even compares to the atrocities committed by our hero. The Beast, with his bipolar fits of rage, threatened Belle constantly, withheld food from her, and kept her as his prisoner. Like Gaston, the Beast tried to lock up Belle’s father – only he actually succeeded.

Why are we so quick to judge Gaston for going after the Beast? Given the circumstances, would any of us do anything different when it came to protecting the town? Do we just sit by and let the Beast abduct people at will?

For all his faults, in the end Gaston was merely trying to rescue Belle from a terror that was all too real. A terror that she herself couldn’t possibly have even recognized.

Once again I would like to reiterate that Gaston is not a good guy. But is being selfish and arrogant enough of a crime that we should condemn him to death? I think not.

Joseph’s Counterargument:

Luckily for us, Disney gave us even more secondary evidence into the dark soul of Gaston when they adapted the Academy Award-winning film for Broadway.  There, they adapted Gaston’s pigheaded proposal to Belle into song.  Claiming that Belle will be his property? Saying women only have uses on occasion and are limited to childbearing and childrearing? Listen, I’m pretty conservative and you are too. But this is offensive even to us!

After comparing himself and Belle to his pair of thighs, Gaston continues his self-centered ways.  Look, I can look past some of Gaston’s mistakes.  Yes, he was the strongest man who had to seemingly protect the town. Sure. BUT, when does he begin to become morally culpable beyond just being a frat star chauvinist?

Some (me included) would argue it’s when he begins to lead by instilling fear in the populace, being less than honest in getting Belle’s father committed, and leading a mob against the Beast.  But even if you concede that Gaston is just trying to protect the town, you simply cannot defend him during his showdown with the Beast.  As a society of fallen creatures searching for redemption, we must give credit to the journey of change each character is on. And no place is this distinction convicting Gaston as a horrid villain clearer than at the end of the film in the final fight scene.  At this point, regardless of past sins, the Beast redeems himself.  He turns the other cheek.  He has mercy on Gaston.  It’s clear to Gaston, at this point, that he won’t have Belle.  But he’s delusional.  Driven by his own narcissism and need for controlling the world to be exactly as he wants, he attacks the very being that JUST MOMENTS BEFORE had mercy on him.  Like the wicked servant in the parable who was given grace by his master only to turn and condemn someone who owed him, Gaston went after the beast.  There is no greater example of pure human blindness to his own fallen condition.  And, like that, in a moment, he falls to his death… certainly not due to the mercy shown him by the Beast, but by his own choices and actions.

Seth: I’m not even going to address arguments based off a Broadway play adaptation (or any other adaptation) of the movie. I’m talking about the Gaston from the animated film.

You seem to hinge your argument on the final moments in the movie, and that’s fair. This is a tough one, as these are difficult decisions that Gaston himself no doubt wrestled with. The thing is, I cannot fault his actions at Beast’s castle.

In the final moments of the film some say the Beast allowed Gaston to live, but if we think about it, what kind of life has he given him? He gives Gaston a life where he and his townspeople would forever be under the Beast’s dominion. We’ve already seen what horrors the Beast put Belle and her father through, and Gaston understood that surrender here meant a lifetime of terror for every man, woman, and child in his town.

This puts Gaston in an impossible position. Although his life was spared, he realizes that failure is not an option for the townspeople. He did not fight with honor, and in the end the fatal blow to the monster cost him his life. He did what he had to do, and he paid the ultimate price for it.

Joseph: But now I’ll present to you more past debates between Seth and I that took place in an e-mail thread.  This debate has been in person and on the worldwide webs. It transcends normal categories.

Joseph: One day, in an e-mail thread to my wife, sister-in-law, and Seth, I commented: Had I seen Palmer and Seth on an e-mail thread without me, I woulda turned into Gaston (who is not as evil as Scar… who is just the worst.)

Seth: 1.) I’m glad Joseph didn’t turn into Gaston, because that poor guy’s life was tragic. The man was a hopeless romantic, condemned to the sufferings of unrequited love. A Romeo without his Juliet, his only hope was to save his town from a dangerous monster. Beloved by his countrymen, he died protecting those who couldn’t protect themselves. While some people decry his actions, there are many who understood his role.

He’s the hero the poor provincial French town deserves, but not what it needs right now. So we’ll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he’s not our hero. He’s a silent Guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight.

Joseph: As for your Nolanian defense of Gaston, I present primary source evidence to the contrary:


Joseph: Let me break down this video that clearly shows that Gaston is not just a villain, but an evil one.

Seth: Lets examine this clip. I could not have chosen a better example of Gaston clearly demonstrating both his civic pride and gifted leadership abilities.


Joseph: Gaston’s violence towards a friend, much smaller than he.

Seth: Self defense. Without provocation his face was grabbed and twisted .


Joseph: Turning his back on his supporters.

Seth: Turning the other cheek. He doesn’t want to further engage the man who just assaulted him.


Joseph: Gaston smiling and loving attention from slutty blonde barmaids. (If he truly loved Belle, he’d be turning from them instead of turning from his male admirers and supporters.)

Seth: At this point in the movie, Belle has already turned him down twice. Even though he owes her nothing, he stiffens at the clearly unwanted affection from the sluts. Never making eye contact with any of them, he doesn’t acknowledge their existence.


Joseph: Could this guy be any more self-absorbed or arrogant?!?!?

Seth: Lets take a moment to realize that he has just been showered with outrageous accolades. And each one is not exaggerated and completely true. He is conceding a point, not making a declaration.


Joseph: Feeling the need to show off his strength to the extent that, once again, he punches his greatest friend/supporter, who is 1/16th his size, at most.

Seth: Up to this point, Le Beau has terrorized everyone at the bar (including Gaston multiple times).


Joseph: Beating up more of his supporters, just to show he can.  Where’s the restraint in that “silent Guardian”?

Seth: It is a massive brawl. Incited by Le Beau. It’s hard to tell the innocence or guilt of any the individuals involved.


Joseph: Actively trying to impress skanky skank-a-lot skanks by picking them up, looking up their dresses. That’s unrequited love, alright.

Seth: He distracts everyone from fighting and stops the brawl.


Joseph: Bad sportsmanship

Seth: The old man was clearly cheating. He moved his Bishop from e3 to g4. Did his Bishop suddenly become a Knight? If this was a western he would have been shot. Gaston lets him off easy.


Joseph: Does this guy have an inch of humility in him?

Seth: Once again, he concedes a point to his zealous supporters


Joseph: All about showing off, not about actually teaching his followers.

Seth: He is clearly teaching about the benefits of protein


Joseph: Can we be positive Gaston didn’t kill Bambi’s family?

Seth: He did not. Bambi’s Mom was killed two centuries after Gaston was born


Joseph: Wacky old coot? Belle’s father? A joyful inventor and innovator who embodies capitalism’s delicious fruits at its best?

Seth: His horse has a better sense of direction than he does. And have you seen his murderous chopper invention?


Joseph: Loony old man… yeah. This is a guy with true love for Belle and not one bit of lust.

Seth: The only thing his invention chopped was a hole in the side of a house. Belle’s father built a siege weapon.


Joseph: Putting his own personal achievement of goals ahead of Belle’s best interests.

Seth: He is attempting a grand gesture to win her heart. Misguided, but it is clear that his heart is in the right place.

Joseph: And if you are blind or deaf to this evil, I submit my above analysis and breakdown of this evidence.

Seth: If Gaston is guilty of anything in this clip, it is of having a good night drinking with his close friends. The clip of the Beast imprisoning Belle’s father was about 100 times worse than anything Gaston has done in his entire life.

Clayton: Alright boys, this is where I step in and leave it up to the people to vote. You’ve each had a chance to share your opinion. I thought about a simple, “Do you agree more with Joseph or Seth?” poll question. But Seth says the audience is already skewed against him b/c we’ve been trained and indoctrinated to hate Gaston. So he wanted a simple “Give Gaston a chance? Yes or no”  I think that’s a bit too much the other direction. To be honest, I really just want to know what the hell are they all drinking in that bar and where can I get some… Because of your antics I’m turning this into a Twilight-esque “Team Joseph” or “Team Seth” poll. Cheesy t-shirts with their picture and team name are optional in this case though.


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  1. Shane

    The time-coded video analysis debate was the best thing I’ve read in a while.

    I have to side with Seth on this one. The filmmakers went out of their way to portray Gaston’s greatest folly as narcissism. I tend to think that this was a deliberate choice to keep Gaston from competing with Belle as the protagonist; we certainly can’t become attached to Gaston if, in the end, he will attempt to murder the newly reformed, good-guy Beast. The ol’ antagonist switcheroo that occurs in latter half of the film is the plot twist that really takes this story to the next level, and incidentally, it is at the root of this debate-of-the-ages.

    The reason I side with Seth is because of the setting of the film. Indeed, it is set in 18th century rural France, an unquestionably patriarchal society. Gaston’s narcissism was at least less offensive, and at best justified, in the context of that culture. The filmmakers made him self-centered so that a MODERN audience would take offense, but if we are to draw conclusions regarding the morality of his actions in the film, we must consider those actions from the perspective of the filmic world in which they transpired.

  2. Joseph Williams

    Defending Gaston is fine. Fine if you like to defend people blinded by arrogance. Fine if you like to defend people who try to kill you moments after you show them mercy. Fine if you like to defend people who are leaders merely by brute force, fear, and lies.

    • Darrell

      I agree. But the real villain is obviously that witch…I mean, “beautiful enchantress” at the film’s opening.
      Seriously, cursing a boy and his entire staff including their children and pets!
      That woman deserves all the blame in this movie.
      I’m all about hospitality, but what a witch!

      • Anonymous

        What a liar you are! The prince was evil because he thought he had the right to tyrannize whenever he wanted. The servants were also to blame because they followed his orders blindly.

        All the enchantress did was try to teach the prince a lesson in humility. If she didn’t do that, he’d likely grow up to be a heartless dictator.

        Put yourself in the shoes of the prince’s followers. Suppose he antagonizes the hell out of you. Wouldn’t you get tired of him?

        I’m glad that the enchantress taught the prince a lesson, although I wish that she’d do it some more.

        Also, you must be blind to the evil of Gaston. Tell me, did you get brainwashed by people who are like him? If so, then don’t blame me once you suffer any any consequences for being the blind fanatic of a true villain.

        • D

          Are you trolling or insane?
          In what way was it fair for that witch to curse an entire castle full of innocent people, including children?
          If you ask me she was just as petty as Maleficent.
          How am I lying? That’s just crazy.
          And as for Gaston, I think he was vile too. Just in a different way. I have no idea where you get that i support that jerk.
          But I do not think you can blame the victims (the servants.)
          There is never any mention of the prince (who most likely was a child at the time) was a tyrant. Just that he turned the witch away. Even after he apologized, she still cursed him and innocent people and then probably moved on to ruin someone else’s life. What a wicked witch!

          • Anonymous

            How could that prince not be a tyrant?! Didn’t you hear that he was spoiled, selfish, and unkind?! Those are attributes of a tyrant.

            And did you not here that the prince had no love in his heart?

            Maybe one of the reasons why I supported the Enchantress turning that opposite of a princess into a beast is because I sometimes have a hard time forgiving people.

            You see? When I was younger, I did try saying sorry to some of my classmates and my dad. But they refused to forgive me.

            Another example of why I’m sometimes unable to forgive is because I did that to some of my enemies. But they used it as an excuse to antagonize me more, which is what Gaston did to the Beast.

            Now you see where I’m getting at?

            • Dan

              Remember when the servants discussed that the curse came to fruition on the prince’s 21st birthday? And do you also remember in “be our guests” when Lumier says “10 years we’ve been rusting”, which means that the prince was cursed when he was 10, going on 11. The boy’s parents were obviously not around meaning they are either dead or left him in the care of servants. What child would not be a little angry in either situation? On top of that, for the enchantress to decide that a 10 year old boy is deserving of a potentially life long curse, in addition to the entire population of the castle who are held responsible for the boy, is incredibly evil.

              • Anonymous

                You wish, liar.

            • Bane_of_Anonymous

              Keep drinking that evil witch enchantress kool-aid, Anonymous.

              And sorry for your bad experience…but really, GET OVER IT!

              • guest

                what a hypocrite you are. here are how you’re a hypocrite:

                1. you claimed to be sorry for Anonymous yet you called yourself his bane.

                2. you told him to get over his past experiences after you told him to drink something doesn’t exist.

                are you by any chance an accomplice of a villain?

                why don’t you get over Anonymous’s posts if you don’t like them. besides, there will always be people like him in this world whether you like it or not.

              • Bane_of_Anonymous

                If anonymous was not such a jerk to everyone on here I would not have bothered. But they are attacking everyone and then whining and complaining about how they were done wrong. In fact, given the way you “both” make comments, I believe “guest” and “anonymous” are one and the same.

                Maybe take your own advice? If you don’t like what someone says, ignore it.

                And how do you know Evil Witch Kool-Aid doesn’t exist? Maybe you should have some to to help you chill out.

            • saintfighteraqua

              If you believe a ten year old boy, all those servants and their children deserved to be turned into a monster and furniture just because some wacky, psycho vigilante justice fairy woman decides it, you are horrible.

              You have a hard time forgiving people? Maybe you deserve a visit from the Enchantress yourself, by your own standards.
              Just because you had bad experiences in life is no reason to take it out on others. Do you think you are the only one to suffer at the hands of bullies?
              Gaston was rotten, yes, but to him the Beast was a monster.
              Do I like Gaston? Heck no. Did he cause his own death? Yes.
              But it still stands that what that stupid Enchantress did was far worse.

  3. Hannah Wiedemann

    Gaston was fated by his own choices and actions. He was jealous of the Beast for being with Belle, he was jealous of his friends for getting more attention. Overall, he was arrogant and the only time he listened to anything was when he talked about himself and how strong and victorious he was (the showoff). Belle saw right through him and knew that the soul of his character was not for the good intentions of the people but only for his pride. This rejection by Belle antagonized his ego and brought him to his downfall. At some point I think some of us have all enjoyed the chase (guys for the girl, girls for the guy, sports) in our desire to win and show others that we are the best. In the aforementioned examples losing is not an option, or if it is the fight is just as satisfying.Gaston proved to make choices NOT for the good of the town but FOR HIMSELF because once he saw that Belle chose the Beast he immediately went to him and tried to kill him. He wanted the father locked away because the father was going to rescue Belle with his invention. Gaston doesn’t like to lose at anything and he definitely wasn’t going to let an old geezer be right and win. The father is the least likely to be a bad character yet Gaston makes him to be ridiculous. Gaston’s actions dictated his own end because he was completely predictable. It was no shocker that the prideful Gaston was not going to win. Pride goes before the fall. —the end—

    • Anonymous

      I couldn’t have posted that better myself.

  4. Paul Preketes

    I am amazed you got 40 people to vote. I loved the debate but then thought, maybe this should be labeled the “Why Guise”. Disney was a master at deception. He wants you to have arguments like this so you keep coming back and padding his coffers. We do, because he provides us a multitude of entertainment from something as simple as a movie. Debate, discussion, the dolls, the lunch box, the clothing, the toys…Gaston lives! Or does he?

    • MetaMan

      I am amazed Paul Preketes wrote this. I loved the comment but then thought, maybe he should be labeled “Meta Preketes”. Paul is a master at deception. He wants you to have arguments about debates like this so you keep coming back and padding his coffers. Debate, discussion, arguing about whether we should be arguing over something… Paul is right! Or is he?

  5. Melissa Ann Edmons

    The friend’s name is Le Fou, not Le Beau. Le Beau is handsome… Fou is fool. The name is meant to represent his personality like Belle’s which means beauty.
    I don’t think Gaston is a true villian, but nor is he a good guy. plus he shows obsession towards Belle, which eventually could lead to insanity or murder.

    • Seth Wiedemann

      Nice Le Fou catch, that was my bad. Insanity and murder though? Lets not be too hasty, every person is capable of great good and great evil. We’ll never know what was in store for Gaston because his life was cut short.

      • Melissa Ann Edmons

        Well.. he was trying to murder the beast even after the beast saved him and had mercy on him…. So I do not think I am too far-fetched.

  6. Jared

    I think Gaston was very misunderstood. In the original play he was a character.(Only in the french version.) To me if I had my way I would ended the film differently.So differently fans would think wow. Let me tell you my story. Just as the Beast is about to let Gaston die with his hands around his neck Gaston begs for mercy and to let him go lets him go realizing this is not right. The beast proceedes going towards Belle and gaston watches and then begines to realize that he cannot get in the way of true love. Gaston watches what is happening and says Belle NO. He then slowly gets up from his fight realizing he has lost belle for good. Gaston is leaving the castle and Belle proceedes by showing her love to the beast. They hug and they both say “I Love you” Suddenly the spheres from the heavens transform the beast into Prince Adam. They Kiss. belle stops and sees Gaston leaving in shame belle tells the prince I need to do this she runs to Gaston Gaston says “belle” she tells him I am sorry Gaston but I love the Beast I mean the prince. Gaston is still sad about not having belle She tells him I know there is someone out there for you gaston. Gaston replies ” really belle you think so” Belle says “I know so”. Belle kisses Gaston on the cheek and they part ways. Belle and the prince are dancing and at the same time gaston is back in the village in a slump mood when all of a sudden he sees the most beautiful girl and they fall in love and they start dancing while all this is going on the beauty and the beast song goes on and everybody lives happily everafter. The End. That ending would of been better.

    • Melissa Ann Edmons

      I like your ending better! I would have loved that ending.

  7. Josh Terry

    If any of you are familier with the show How I meet your mother I feel that the same thing happened to Gaston that happened to Ted Mosby. In one of the episodes Ted takes a girl to a movie that is about him getting left at the alter and his wife to be runs off with her ex boyfriend. Who then makes the movie look as if Ted is a bad guy. Same thing here i believe that Gaston is actually a hero and that we are just getting one side of the story and not everything went exactly like that

  8. To hell with gaston

    I’m ashamed of you people who defend Gaston! ARe you outta your minds for stickin’ up for that closed-minded, shallow, and sexist bully?! All he cared about was getting whatever he wanted no matter what!

    The o0nes who claim that he’s misunderstood are the ones who misudnerstand hi mbecause they’re blinded by their fanaticim for him. Do you actually support his atnagonism.

    It sickens me that he ahs more lovers than haters in this webpage. Why, there’s too much support for bullies in this day and age.

    Gaston reminds me of my dad due to his personality as well as the bullies who picked on me in school for being a nerd. Therefore, I have no love for bullies.

    If you Gaston suypporters want to yourselves and your loved ones to be abused by people like him, it’s your loss. But you have only yourselves to blame.

    • Seth Wiedemann

      Just to clarify things, I don’t think anyone would say that Gaston should be looked up to as a role model. What I will say is this: forgiveness is a better stance than revenge. I’m deeply sorry for your personal experiences, as bullying is a such a major problem for so many people. I completely understand you’re misgivings about Gaston’s many faults, but surely you’re not saying that we should rejoice at the notion of him falling to his death? In the beginning of the film the beast was a far greater bully than Gaston could ever be, but in the end he was given grace and forgiveness. As bad as Gaston was, I believe he deserved this same chance at redemption.

      • Anonymous

        You know? Soemtimes people can use foregiveness as an excuse to be more hostile. I should know as I’ve experienced it.

        • Bane_of_Anonymous

          So you said.

          • guest

            you don’t like what anonymous posted? then, just ignore it.

            • Bane_of_Anonymous

              Because you are anonymous.

    • Akuin

      Ok I need to stop you right there. You’re putting a lot of words in a lot of people’s mouths. First off, I like you was bullied k-12, I was also raped twice. I am a nerd, and I am mentally disabled, the kind of woman Gaston would certainly make fun of.

      You also don’t take into account Gaston’s upbringing into all of this. This was a patriarchal society where women were property, there to look pretty, do the sex, have the babies, and keep the house. So I’d cut him some slack on that front. If it wasn’t normal society accepted by both men and women I’d be like yeah he’s a sexist shallow douche all the way! But Belle is the Odd duck in the society not Gaston. She is a woman who values herself above men, reads, is clearly the head of her household not her father, the traditional head. and would have if not for the beast never actually married because law would have placed her and all of her possessions as sole property of her husband. And Belle would not have given up the power she held to become the little misses she said it herself. Even the women would have looked down on her as acting like a man.

      Also no one has said Gaston wasn’t an asshole. You can be an asshole and not be a VILLAIN. There is a difference between the two.

      The Beast is also an asshole, but I’d argue he’s way more villianous in the beginning then Gaston is the whole movie. He Starved Belle, Blackmailed her, and pretty much enslaved her, she was his property and could not leave the castle for any reason without his permission. And was punished when she did not follow his commands.

      Gaston is an asshole yes, but I can see where the defenders are coming from. As far as Gaston is concerned, he’s a highly influential person in the community, with fears of a beast and abduction and enslavement of villages (Belle and Maurice). It would have been his duty to take the beast out. And the Beast allowing Gaston to live could simply have been a ploy to show the villagers he holds their life in their hands.

      Gaston was not privy to the beasts transformation, and Belle could have been brainwashed so of course he’d make another attempt to kill the beast.

      Seriously though, understanding the other side of the coin does not mean people want themselves or their families to be bullied.

  9. Chloe

    I don’t think that when he went to slay the beast he had the town’s best interest in mind. He said he did, which is how he convinced the mob to go after him, but what he really seemed to want was something more selfish than that. This is proven by his line in “The Mob Song”, “Take whatever booty you can find, but remember, The Beast is mine!”
    If he had truly cared about the safety of the town he would’ve cared much less about getting to kill him himself, and just would want him dead. Sure, he could’ve been trying to prevent the other towns people from hurting themselves by trying to take the beast on, but in that case, would he really have encouraged them to steal things from the castle (or even come with him)? Also, the fact that he had previously stated that he wanted to mount the beasts head on his wall shows that this ranked as a kind of sport to him. What he wanted wasn’t the towns safety, it was personal glory.

    • Joseph Williams

      You raise a lot of good points. Unfortunately, people don’t care a lot about justice these days. They allow villains like Gaston to turn themselves into heroes, blindly looking past redemption and grace from tormented souls like the Beast and blindly overlooking the selfishness and vainglory of Gaston. Thank you for being a patriot!

      • Seth Wiedemann

        You’ve got to be kidding me. One look at the worry etched into the faces of the village women waving handkerchiefs as their husbands march out of town will tell you that no one is thinking of plunder. This is a suicide mission. These people (including Gaston) are hopelessly outmatched and they know it.

        Of course Gaston is going to tell these people that he will handle the Beast. They aren’t trained soldiers; these people are farmers, tradesmen, and husbands. Gaston is giving them a shimmer of hope as they face down insurmountable odds. It is his confidence that gives the townspeople the courage to protect their families. This is why every other line in the song clearly indicates the true goal of the expedition: self preservation. Or as the townspeople put it, “Save your children and your wives / We’ll save our village and our lives.”

        • Anonymous

          Brainwashed much?

      • Anonymous

        Right you are, Joe.

      • Akuin

        No where did I see anyone overlooking the selfishness and vainglory of Gaston. However I do see people taking audience only information and applying it to Gaston. He is not all seeing, he is not god. He did not see the Beast’s redemption, and Stockholm syndrome isn’t new. The Beast is a monster, so likely had black magic to enslave the mind of Belle making her word really not credible to anyone in the situation except the audience because they were there to witness the whole thing.

    • Cersox

      You need to understand the mindset of an 18th century Frenchman to fully appreciate what Gaston was doing. Fighting the Beast alone and mounting his head on a wall was a symbol of honor. As we’ve learned from Gaston’s chess match with the cheating old man: Gaston believes in fairness and honor. It may not have been the most strategically sound move, but nothing about ‘honorable combat’ has ever coincided with strategy.(ex: pistols at dawn)

      • Anonymous

        It makes no difference that that midnset was different in that time period. It doesn’t give anyone the right to mistreat others for being different from him or her.

        • Akuin

          True…so the Beast should have died too. He mistreated his staff, his people, Belle, and her father.

    • Anonymous

      Because of that post, Chloe, you’re one of my favorite posters in this website.

  10. Dave Simons

    I admit that I agree with Team Seth, that Gaston is not Evil but of Course is Misunderstood, if u look the Bar Brawl scene, he put a Stop to it as quick as he could. and if u think about it he fought The Beast to a standstill and almost kills The Beast all in an effect to save Belle despite his arrogance. and save his country. talk about a real hero

    • Anonymous

      Wow, mentally blind much?

  11. Darrell

    Did he deserve to die? Maybe. He did after all try to kill the Beast after being shown mercy.
    BUT he does have in his defense the fat that he and his men were attacked by furniture and then faced with a monster. In a time like that when werewolves and witches were feared, would any of us have done the same?
    He was the movie’s villain, regardless what any of us think about him and I agree with Joseph on almost every point, so he gets my vote. I also lean towards the conservative on many matters, but Gaston was the picture of a conservative extremist with no respect for anyone less fortunate than himself and no respect for women.

    • Anonymous

      You’re correct on that last sentence of yours.

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  13. MSCC93

    You guys are missing the point. Gaston is a villain because of his narcissism and his own selfish desires! He really didn’t love Belle at all. He didn’t see her as a woman, he saw her as an object. Gaston thought that just because he was handsome, he deserved the most beautiful girl, so he kept on pestering Belle and took drastic measures to get her, even if it did involve locking her father in an asylum and killing the Beast, even though the Beast didn’t do anything wrong to him!

    Belle was 100% right to reject him. You guys complain about girls going with assholes, but you would support a nice girl like Belle marrying an asshole like Gaston? Hypocrite much. Gaston didn’t suffer from a broken heart, he suffered from a broken ego. You know the saying “If you love somebody, set them free.” Well if Gaston really loved Belle, he would have left her alone with the Beast instead of trying to kill the Beast.

    Gaston brought his death on himself. The Beast spared Gaston’s life, and then Gaston deliberately chose to stab him in the back, causing the beast to accidentally make him fall to his death. He wasn’t killed because he was a douche, he was killed because he attempted to kill the Beast and what the Beast did (accidentally, mind you) was self-defense. I mean, you’d kill someone too if he or she tried to kill you too,right?

    That’s the end of my rant.

    • Anonymous

      You, sir or sa’am, are so right. Because you posted all that, you’re either my favorite commentator in this webpage or one of the only commenters who I like here.

      I’m proud to be a Gaston hater and Belle supporter like you. Heck, I favor nerds and geeks over jocks and other bullies due to my being mistreated by those antagonists a lot.

      Due to your proving to be against Gaston like I am, I salute you just as I salute Belle, geeks, and nerds (well, most of them). Keep up the good work. After all, I believe that this world needs more people like you.

    • Keenan

      I think you’re missing the point. Look at it through Gaston’s eyes. The girl you desire (to whom you are the closest thing to a friend in the entire town which dislikes you) has been missing, while her father comes ranting about monsters and talking furniture (which Gaston justifiably interprets as insanity). Then the girl comes back and shows you the monster. He assumes she has gone insane (stockholm syndrome) or is being threatened by the beast (because what sane person would care for the monster that kidnapped and imprisoned them and their father) so he leads the town to go kill the terrifying monster. He fights the mindless (to him) beast, beast appears to save you but holy shit it’s a monster so I’m still gonna try and kill it. So really his only crime is being arrogant and misogynist (which is at least less offensive considering the culture of the time period).

      • Anonymous

        Another ass-kissing liar you are.

    • Akuin

      Ok to be fair we’re talking about 1740. Women were not seen as people, but property. Fathers sold their daughters for all sorts of perks to their husbands. I’d say Love was at best a poor man’s thing if it existed at all in that time. If it wasn’t a Disney movie, Belle would have at best been allowed to be Adam’s concubine because he would have needed to sell himself to make peace with a potentially hostile nation.

      Maurice was a strange man in the fact that he would has more then likely sold Belle to Gaston for the prestige and benefits that came to being Gaston’s father in law.

  14. Matt

    Let’s take a look at the village. The nearest government authority (the Prince’s castle) gets cursed, depriving the village of both legislation and security. And yet, the “poor provincial town” seems, if not wealthy, very well-off. The streets are clean, nobody seems to be in poverty, and there appears to be no criminal activity. We see one man in the stockades, but given the social mores of the day, his crime may have been something like radical political theory or buggery. Plus, his jovial attitude towards his punishment indicates that he has learned his lesson and is well on the road to rehabilitation.

    Considering that there’s no militia and the highest authority (again, the castle) is defunct, one would think the town would be a prime target for bandits and highwaymen and such. And yet, it is not. Clearly, the presence of an individual such as Gaston is a natural deterrent to those of a less honorable nature.

    Also, it should be noted that of the many actors who have portrayed Gaston on stage, one was an actor who would go on to play WOLVERINE. Is Wolverine a villain? I think not!

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  16. quinn

    OK Gaston was so the villain and totally deserved to die. Seth’s argument has so many holes in it its not even funny. Number one the beast was not terrorizing the town. It was made clear he kept to himself. It was obvious from the servants interactions with belle and her father that there hhadn’t been any new people to the castle in years. Yes the beast held belle and her father prisoner but only after they trespassed on HIS territory. And although at first he treated belle terribly his character developed as he fell in love with her and he became a kind and compassionate person. Hell he even let’s her go so she can be with her sick father. When asked why he pretty much spells it out. “I let her go. I had to. I love her.” . Yeah he sounds so evil there. Meanwhile we have gaston who yeah started off just being a giant ass but crosses the line to vvillain. He bribes the insane asylum guy to lock up belles father so he can blackmail belle into marrying him. He incites fear into the villagers to go after the beast. Once there he confronts the beast and taunts him and then when the beast finally fights back andGaston is begging for his life the beast shows him mercy and is going to let him go. Gaston, who should have run like hell out of there when he had the chance, stabbed the beast while his back was turned. That’s right he literally stabbed him in the back. He totally deserved to die and anyone who disagrees clearly missed the whole point of the story.

    • Anonymous

      You, sir, are likely my favorite posterin this site because of how truthful you are.

  17. John

    Gaston is a true hero, in any other movie he would have been the good guy, sure he has an ego but nobody’s perfect and the whole town loves Gaston, at the time period most men didn’t treat woman all that well, he’s not sexist he’s a product of the times, it’s history, he was just trying to save the town and the woman he loves from a monstrous beast who kidnapped the girl that struck his fancy; and as for putting the father in an asylum, the dad WAS crazy, just look at him, he was looking out for his well being

    • Anonymous

      You’re a real liar, you know that? If I didn’t know ebtter, I’d say that youv’e brainwashed by Gaston to see his true colors.

      • Themed_Glory

        Anonymous keeps using the word liar. I don’t think it means what he/she thinks it means.
        And yeah, Gaston isn’t someone I would hang with. But the whole town loves and encourages him, so of course he’s going to have a massive ego. The only other person that gives a rip in the entire town about belle, aside from pop, is Gaston. Yeah he’s a womanizer, but when every other woman swoons at you just for looking their way? It’s a bit of a perplexing situation.
        He’s good at everything he does and he knows it.
        And when he seems like he was possibly on a road to any kind modesty, the entire town just fuels his ego. What he needs is to be knocked down a peg. He reaaally didn’t deserve to die, he wasn’t a danger to anyone. Yes he tried to kill the beast even after the beast showed mercy on him. But come on, she clearly developed stockholm syndrome and he seized the opportunity to strike. It really doesn’t make sense to come to any other conclusion than “oh god the crazy old man was right, there is a monster in the castle”, it’s just Disney trying super hard to make Gaston a villain.
        One last thing, Anonymous you’re batshit insane for thinking a 10 year old boy and the entirety of his staff, men, women, children, and pets deserved to be punished in such a manner. the only one here who seems brainwashed, is you.

        • saintfighteraqua

          I agree. I dislike Gaston, he’s not a nice person and he’s a bad guy…just not truly wicked.
          Yes he tried to kill the Beast, but to be fair, the Beast did look like a monster.
          I believe Gaston was an antagonist and a real jerk, but I still think the Enchantress was far worse.
          I hope they somehow tracked that thing down and made her answer for her crimes.
          I don’t care how big of a brat the Beast was, she was a demon if her idea of justice is punishing children and innocent men and women just because a bratty kid turned her away.
          He might have even been thinking “Snow White” when he saw her…old woman tries to offer you something in exchange for coming inside…and he was right to be wary, she was EVIL! Cursed for ten years with a nearly impossible task: get someone to love him as a Beast. He couldn’t leave his castle without being mobbed or hunted and how many maidens do you think wandered through that part of the woods in those days? For all we know, old Maurice was the first visitor they’d had. And the furniture people wouldn’t have fared better than the Beast if they’d wandered out into the world…the people of the town would have rightfully been freaked out by either a seven foot tall were buffalo or talking pots and pans. There’s no way they would have let their daughters go willingly.
          So I still say the Enchantress is the true evil of the film.
          Adam was inhospitable and spoiled, but he was ten!!

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  19. Cassandra

    TBH IDK why this is such a good debate…but I prefer Seth’s argument

  20. Drstevo

    LeBeau was a character on Hogan’s Heroes.
    This character is LeFou (the fool)

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